Shogan: Please check Silvyr's thread for the current alpha raid roster for raids starting this week.

Seckua: dont have to look too far for another hunter

Shogan: http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=5uedhdh6oo831qr75knfbm4ia000000000000000

Shogan: This is the raid structure that I am leaning toward atm. http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=5uedhdh6oo831qr75knfbm4ia000000000000000 I need to discuss witht he other officers and see what they think.

Medson: imo, we need 13 retdin, but that's just me. sorry for trolling, i couldn't help it.

Solokiss: imo i think we need to add at least 2 dk's

Shogan: All - Remember, there is only 1 25 man raid team. There isn't a 70 team, or a 71 team, or a 72 team... just the "team". Also remember that if you change your mains you will lose your spot. I am happy for people to change mains as much as they want but the team has to have certain things. In Kelvon's situation we need two hunters. Since he has changed to a non hunter we have to find a different hunter to fill the spot. In situations where I can slide a new main into another spot I will. I prefer to keep the same people on the team if at all possible. Please play the characters you want but remember that the raid will be built to be successful, not around your character choice. On the flip side... we will be adding at least 1 death knight to the team. I haven't decided what spot will be cut to make room for this.

Shamie: Kel why would they start gearing an alt(which is what Kelvon is gonna be) when they have plenty of mains that still need gear out of there. Also as far as losing a raid spot you will have to stand in line there are alot of Mdps(which is what your DK is) that have been waiting along time for Mdps raid spot. Since there are only 5 spots for Melee

Kelvon: I easnt talking about my dk to raid i thought kel was aloud to raid still to i got my dk to 80 since its a 70 instance, but forget it .

Silvyr: As for loyaltynot meaning much, well I have to agree. I certainly only get crap from people when I am trying to be helpful. Happened twice just tonight. Maybe I'll give you my raid spot and quit.

Silvyr: Kelvon not only was it explicitly stated that it would happen but I also made sure to tell you in a whisper that you would lose your raid spot. I dont understand how you could be surprised. Kelvon is a RANGED DPS class. A DK is MELEE DPS. It's not the same slot and your DK couldnt raid with us now even if it was because he has NO GEAR. The post explaining all of this is dated SEVEN DAYS AGO before the xpac even released. http://zombie.mmoguildsites.net/forum_threads/159574

Kelvon: its suppose to be waited

Kelvon: well i thought we could have raid to be kicked out of raiding, yes my dk was going to be my main until i hit 80 but didnt think i would be kicked out of BT and SWP. with kelvon. i never missed a raid night well i guess that dont mean much here i wanted to see swp. i guess loyality dont mean crap huh well ty

Mstar: sorry, i voted

Silvyr: Saladine, Sindaime, Frezz and Mstar - You all need to indicate your availability for T6 raiding as we level to 80. I don't want to give away your spots, but I also don't want to scramble last minute for a sub so vote NOW.

Tescovee: DK category added to class forums

Cynite: qh is on your map tells you where to go generally, lightheaded is in your quest log it is an extra tab with extensive quest info from rep to xp gained, where it starts and ends and all relevant wowhead comments on the quest

Cynite: Kelvon they be needed because my bro is a deathtank some admins should make a new class forum....

Saladine: cool thanks which is better and how do they work

Cynite: quest helper and lightheaded